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December 17, 2007


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Not a lot of original artists know this, but the fanworks universe is a dangerous place to have an opinion. Everyone has their own preferences, their own flames, their own OTPs (One True Pairings), and their own feelings on touchy subjects like yaoi/shonen-ai and MPreg. This in essense is no real problem in an ideal world, because everyone should be entitled to their own opinion.

Unfortunately, some fans take it a little over the edge. In an obsessive craze, they will stick to their viewpoint like a lifeline and won't be afraid to attack those who oppose their opinion as a defense mechanism. I'm not talking constructive cricism here, I'm talking about flagerant flaming, bashing, insulting, and in the worst cases even threatening. Even when dA has a no-tolerance policy for such behavior, it still exists, here and elsewhere, and it's not pretty to be in that sort of conflict.

See, on the Internet, it's EASY to bash others because no one knows who you are. Everyone is free to express their opinion, be it respectful or not. The point I make often is that it takes a truly mature person to be respectful on the Internet.

I would like to present to you a conversation posted on my yaoi picture entitled "29. Happiness," a series of messages between a concerned member and I. Be warned, it's long.

Here's what he said:

Y'know, I know you may not take this well, and may very well hide this comment, but I'm just going to say it. I hold nothing against homosexuals as people, and I agree that it isn't right to call names, or be hateful. However, as a Christian, I don't think the idea of homosexuality as right, or pleasant, or beautiful. I'm not going to berate them for being what they are, but I'm not gonna say stuff like, "Way to go!", or "Gay pride all the way!". I don't support homosexuality, simply put. But more or less, there's more to this situation than the black and white. Not all people that don't support homosexuality are insensitive monsters or jerks. The Christian population in general is greatly misrepresented as being hateful and monstrous, but we AREN'T. All I'd really like to know is, what's so wrong with pairing Link with Zelda, or someone else, or Ed with a girl, or Edd with a girl, or Roy with a girl? Straight pairings aren't THAT bad for these characters. The reason people get outraged by this kind of stuff is usually because they see it as a misrepresentation of that character. I mean, let's face it, neither Link, nor Roy, nor Ed and Edd, or just about any character in a fan-yaoi pairing has really shown signs of homosexuality. I mean, ZADR? Ugh............But anywho.........I'm not trying to offend, so please don't take it that way.

A few very valid points made. And here's how I replied:

Nah, man, you have an opinion and you're entitled to it.
I'm not saying Christians are horrible people. It's the hardcore ones that won't leave other people alone that ruin their reputation as a whole, and I'm well aware of that. I never said Christians are horrid people (technically, I AM one XD). Just because you're religious doesn't mean you have to hate eveything your religion's against. My boyfriend's Catholic, and he's totally fine with gays, accepts that I am bisexual, and enjoys my work all the same.
There's nothing wrong with hetero pairings, not at all. To me, however... they seem... exhausted. I'm the kind of person that likes to explore unexpected aspects of characters and how they relate to each other. As for misinterpretation, I believe is all based on opinion and preference. Link, however, has no defined character; that leaves him open for all possibilities. I've seen him characterized as a big sweetheart and a cold-hearted bastard. With Link, there IS no misinterpretation, at least, that's what I believe. Others can interpret him however they please, I don't care, as long as they don't bash my interpretation. I'd never do that to them.
When you make characters do things or make decisions that is unexpected based on the character they've presented, that makes them three-dimensional. People are complex by nature; putting a character a little out of whack makes them seem more real. For example, let's take a popular pairing, like Edd and Eddy; you don't expect Eddy to be soft enough for a relationship, but he'll break out of that mold if his feelings for Edd are that strong. If the author/artist pulls it off well, it's truly a fascinating thing to look at and think about. I never look at EEnE the same now. XD
I'm not hiding this, because I want people to know my reasoning on this subject is.

So, I hear him out and give him my side of the argument, which I was only more than happy to. And how did he reply? make a very fine point. Nothing wrong with getting along and agreeing to disagree about some things, right? Friends?

Absolutely. This is what happens when someone is intelligant enough to ask "why?", listen in, and come to an understanding and, as he said, agree to disagree.

I posted this in a journal, trying to show this point, and everyone was surprised. No bashing, no flaming, no antagonism, nothing! And I don't blame their shock. Conversations such as these are seldom found on the Internet, which unfortunately reflects the overall intelligant quota of the fanbase population.

This is a message to all fans. Everyone says it, and it's the honest truth: if you don't like it, don't look at it. You can't please everybody with your opinion, but you should be able to express it without being harassed by ignorance. THAT is my main point. Conversations like the one above are not impossible. If we can all learn to respect each other, the fanbase will seem a lot less intimidating. Let's all love our games, shows, comics, and movies collectively, the way we wish.
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
of course it can go both ways. Or even crossover pairing wise as well.
I'm not into yaoi so I avoid it. I DO NOT go onto yaoi pics and act like a idiot about it. It's not my thing so I'll just ignore it.
Daioh--Sakura Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2008
I'm Catholic and love yaoi, bl games and slash pairings. I can easily understand why someone might be offended by it. What I do not understand is why they see the title, 'contains BL' or 'LxLight,' and go ahead to FULL SCREEN it and complain.

You have the power to click the 'x' in your inbox, unwatch me because I offend you, or look away. It takes about 2 seconds to click away from something offensive.
How long does it take to stare at the image and judge it, complain, and not even comment on the art ITSELF--only the content?

You don't see me clicking full-view on an image of naked inflation yiff art. I don't like it, but I'm not going to burn an artist for drawing it.

I am grateful for my kind watchers and friends who are not into the 'fujoshi' things, and have the courtesy to comment on the ART, bad or not; and say 'I'm no fan of this kind of thing at all, but the wings are really well done. How about putting more detail into the color though?'

*longrant is long*

It would be nice to live in a world where we could all have INTELLIGENT conversations, like with the person you described in your article. To be able to agree to disagree, and remember this is an ART site, not a site meant to offend. <3 It is nice to see a smart fangirl, speaking things other than 'FOK OFF SASUGAY IS MENT 4 NAROOTO, SO FOK OFF YAOI RULZ LOL N U SUK.'

Long live the smart fangirls. <3
Nintendo-Nut1 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Here, here! Yeah, I've never been a fan of inflations, but I don't go around telling those artists so. I have my obsessions (werewolves... :drool: ), they can have theirs. ^^
Haha, I have a guy who dubs himself "NN1's #1 fan," and he's always like "AUUGHHH I HATE THIS PAIRING BUT THE ART IS SO AWESOME!" XD
Don't worry, I can appreciate long rants. XD
Daioh--Sakura Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2009
Lol that's nice to hear!! :heart: it's great to have fans who don't agree with you, yet stick around for the art--it must mean that they really see potential and like your style. >w0
Nintendo-Nut1 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
^^ Indeed! And I only keep getting better! I should, I'm going to an art school, after all. XD
Hihi-San Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2008
You make very valid points. I will admit that I, too, am one of the people who have gotten into arguments about this sort of thing, but I don't make a huge deal of it. Very nice article~
ZeiferRei Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2008
Very well put. :)
Although, the entire world lacks people like this (see: Politicians)
pieandchips666 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2008
Oh, this is so true. I, originally Christian but now Agnostic, don't personally don't give a rat's ass about homosexuality. I don't care if gays get married or if they adopt children. Now, I also don't care if they're denied rights for being gay. But I do believe that gays have every RIGHT to get married (or on South Park in one episode be "butt buddies"). What I DO have a problem with is how utterly retarded some fans can be, it's okay to LOVE a series, but making it your life and cosplaying outside of Halloween is just wrong.
Lasilla Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2008  Student Interface Designer
You make a very good point. I mean, I'm catholic, and I find some of that Yaoiness offensive. I look, and I don't comment. That's all. One of my motto's is "If you don't have anything nice to, then shut you trap and leave me the fudge alone." I think it's really retarded when people flame on stuff like that. People have there own opinions, and that's okay. Flamers and bashers tend to think that they're the only one allowed to have one. Most of those people are really inconsiderate. I just gets me really mad when they keep going, and going, even when you stop replying. D:> Trust me, I've been through it. DX
To conclude, this is probably one of the best articles in the news section. You have my fav. :3
Saladianna Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
I'm very much far behind from this update, But I agree very much with this, If hate didn't exist then this world wouldn't be so twisted.
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